Hello guys I'm in front of this µcontroller named : 2622A44FAV. No information available on Google. This µcontroller is seated in a invacare wheelchair ECU (ref DK-PMB21). The ECU is build by the Dynamic compagny located in New zeland. It's also the brand I found on the µcontroller. Do you know more from this part ? Should I consider it's a part build exclusively for Dynamic ? Or (my assumption) it's a regular µcontroller with only a dynamic labelling ? In this case what method should I use to find the real hidden part number ? Thks for your support. vincent
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What is the marking on the SO8 component on the right ? What dies your chip do, control 2 BLDC motors with sensors ? May it be sn FPGA with serial EEPROM and the black epoxy dot on the left is the uC ? There is no way to repair. If it is a programmed uC, you do not have the program. And probably it is not defective.
MaWin schrieb: > and the black epoxy dot on the left is the uC ? That looks like a round hole in the PCB to me.
Vincent H. wrote: > Or (my assumption) it's a regular µcontroller with only a dynamic > labelling ? > In this case what method should I use to find the real hidden part > number ? Try acetone. Sometimes it unveils hidden information...
Thks for your replies The part on the right is a 16K EEPROM (24LC16B) I have absolutly no clue...what this chip could be. This ECU manages the jostick, the motors and the back recline motor, the lights and the battery charging. That's a lot ... I start to retro-engineer the ECU to take over the H-bridge (at least) and maybe some other functions for another purpose. This can be a cheap way to handle the 70 amps motors. H-bridge command circuitry is quite easy to find with the 4x2 MOSFET + 4 H-bridge drivers (IR21844). Here the full view of the (nice and well build) PCB. Vincent
Vincent H. wrote: > In this case what method should I use to find the real hidden part > number ? The simple but stony path is to reconstruct the schematic (at first the GND and VCC and Clock and reset connections) and search in the internet for a matching chip. And when you found a pincompatible chip, you are not at the end of your journey, but rather just one step away from the starting line. To make your own firmware, you need a lot more of effort. And do not believe, that a firmware on a chip labeled on customers request is readable. Particularly if the chip has a damage. Good luck. W.S.
W.S. wrote: > Vincent H. wrote: >> In this case what method should I use to find the real hidden part >> number ? > > The simple but stony path is to reconstruct the schematic (at first the > GND and VCC and Clock and reset connections) and search in the internet > for a matching chip. > > And when you found a pincompatible chip, you are not at the end of your > journey, but rather just one step away from the starting line. To make > your own firmware, you need a lot more of effort. And do not believe, > that a firmware on a chip labeled on customers request is readable. > Particularly if the chip has a damage. > > Good luck. > > W.S. Yeap That's why a plan to graft a ESP32 on top of that and hook up all connection a need. Thks
choucroutemelba wrote: > The part on the right is a 16K EEPROM (24LC16B) This EEPROM is too small to hold the complete firmware for a FPGA, so it probably only stores user parameters. choucroutemelba wrote: > This can be a cheap way to handle the 70 amps motors. Not in this circuit. This is way to tiny to handle 70Amps. You should provide at least 5 times the current the motors draw to be on the safe side - e.g. 3 IRFB3205 in parallel for each MOSFet.
matzetronics wrote: > This EEPROM is too small to hold the complete firmware for a FPGA, so it > probably only stores user parameters. Yes this is also my point of view matzetronics wrote: > Not in this circuit. This is way to tiny to handle 70Amps. You should > provide at least 5 times the current the motors draw to be on the safe > side - e.g. 3 IRFB3205 in parallel for each MOSFet. I wrote it unclear. The motors are given for 70 amps but it's the peak current. The ECU can provide 18A nominal, 60A during < 60sec and additional 15A < 10sec. I'll look closely to the MOSFET but ECU & motors are build in so they should works properly together. Attached some pictures
The Package and this Marking looks like an Renesas/Hitachi H8 derivat. The H8S/2258 seems to fit with the Quartz and some Vcc pins but not with all pins.
It is an H8S/2622. The H8S/2622 is described in the Manual of the H8S/2623. The main differences are: Mask ROM RAM H8S/2622 128k 8k H8S/2623 256k 12k https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/101892.pdf
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